by Erik Olson (e-mail)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com
Hi. I just put up some articles on the Krib, one of which is a Sub-O
breeding article. Our experience has been that when they were ready to
breed, it was pretty easy. Getting them "ready" sometimes seems to
involve radically changing their environment ("Oh my gaaawwwd, we're gonna
die! Spaaaaaaaaawn!"), or being out of town for a week or more. So they
might spawn for you right after you've gotten them. They are normally
exceedingly shy, and if given adequate cover, you'll hardly see them at
all. Definitely a fish that does well with dithers. When they do come
out, they're a very pretty fish, especially the female in breeding
coloration: candy-stripe red-and-black, with that super-reflective dorsal
fin...
Tank conditions: low hardness, plants, 78-80 F, not too picky about food,
unless it's a wild specimen (I think we weaned ours first to baby brine
shrimp, and eventually to flake foods.)
As for N. transvestitus, well, there's only so many tanks we can keep at a
time, and so many hours in a day, but someday we'll breed this one.
Meanwhile, I do have a couple of posts others have made on this list...
- Erik
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, AEIGPHD wrote:
> Hi. I am new to this mailing list. I just started a 55 gal planted tank with
> 3 pelvicachromis subocellatus and 1 femal nannochromis transvestitus (tank
> alos contains congo tetras and west african killies). I am looking to breed
> the cichlids. I found these dwarfs in local pet shops but they are hard to
> come by. Does anyone know of any good mail order or local New York
> breeders/suppiliers?
> Anyone have any breeding tips for theses species? Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> -- Andy
>
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by Randy or Deb Carey <carey/spacestar.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998
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AEIGPHD wrote:
> Hi. I am new to this mailing list. I just started a 55 gal planted tank with
> 3 pelvicachromis subocellatus and 1 femal nannochromis transvestitus (tank
> alos contains congo tetras and west african killies). I am looking to breed
> the cichlids. <snip>
> Anyone have any breeding tips for theses species? Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> -- Andy
I'll give my recent experience with each of these. I had a pair of wild-caught
subocellatus since last March, but they showed no interest in spawning and were
very shy. In December I moved them to a 29 with a few tetras. Within a couple
of days, the pair started to show color and female started to show interest in
spawning. Then I conducted a 70% change with all r/o water and thinned out the
tetra community. Shortly after, the pair spawned in a cave. The female and male
work together guarding the fry. They persistently bear text book colors.
The Nanochromis transvestitus are said to require a pH of 5.0 or below to spawn.
When I found fry, I observed a pH just below 5.0. I know of at least two
successive broods living together in the 10 gallon, so the juveniles don't seem
to threaten the new fry.
As far as getting fish, you can ask on this list. (All I have available are
fry/juveniles.) Many of us will ship. Also, you can check into the ACA, the
Apistogramma Study Group, or (if you breed fish) the North Am. Fish Breeders
Guild.
--Randy
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by Randy Carey <randy.carey/no.spam>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998
Newsgroup: rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids
I'd like to share an interesting experience.
Last March I had purchased wild-caught specimens of two of the rarer
Pelvicachromis: suboccelatus and sacrimontis (a new species). For each
species I placed a pair in a ten gallon tank and provided live food,
good water parameters, and various spawning sites.
After months of no activity I moved a pair of sacrimontis into a
sparsely populated 29 community. Immediately the pair showed an
interest in spawning. The female would dance with a dark red/purple
body. But success didn't come until I switched to mostly all r/o water
and the pH hit 6 or just below.
So I tried the same with the suboccelatus--moved them to a 29 and a few
weeks later conducted a massive water change to mostly r/o. Again, the
pair showed interest once they were moved to the larger tank, and they
produced fry after the water change.
I've spawned captive-raised Kribs in a 10, but these apparantly required
more space. I'm assuming it is because they are wild-caught, but it
could be a requirement of these two species.
Anyway, I list these fish (and others) at my website:
http://www.spacestar.net/users/carey/fishroom
-- Randy
Note: The reply address is invalid.
Please direct correspondance to the address listed at my web site.
by mercy/halcyon.com (Robert S. Frangooles)
Date: 30 Jan 1998
Newsgroup: rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids
I can't comment on your thoughts with regards to a wild-caught requiring
more space, since our pair is most likely not wild. I can however say
that you can spawn subocellatus in a 10 gallon tank.
Our method for inducing them to spawn hasn't involved massive water
changes, instead we have had good success removing one of the pair, and
then re-introducing them after a week or so.
Bob
Randy Carey (randy.carey-at-no.spam) wrote:
: I'd like to share an interesting experience.
:
: Last March I had purchased wild-caught specimens of two of the rarer
: Pelvicachromis: suboccelatus and sacrimontis (a new species). For each
: species I placed a pair in a ten gallon tank and provided live food,
: good water parameters, and various spawning sites.
:
: After months of no activity I moved a pair of sacrimontis into a
: sparsely populated 29 community. Immediately the pair showed an
: interest in spawning. The female would dance with a dark red/purple
: body. But success didn't come until I switched to mostly all r/o water
: and the pH hit 6 or just below.
:
: So I tried the same with the suboccelatus--moved them to a 29 and a few
: weeks later conducted a massive water change to mostly r/o. Again, the
: pair showed interest once they were moved to the larger tank, and they
: produced fry after the water change.
:
: I've spawned captive-raised Kribs in a 10, but these apparantly required
: more space. I'm assuming it is because they are wild-caught, but it
: could be a requirement of these two species.
:
: Anyway, I list these fish (and others) at my website:
: http://www.spacestar.net/users/carey/fishroom
:
:
: -- Randy
:
: Note: The reply address is invalid.
: Please direct correspondance to the address listed at my web site.
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